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[dreamsofnoah]

At least there's a lot of people to...talk to here, when I'm bored. And conversations keep on coming back to the same subject.

Maybe just the time~ of year, or maybe because of the place, but I think it goes to show the kind of thing people waste time to think about. So many opinions and no two the same.

Tell me, City~. What's a monster?

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[lyra-of-dust.livejournal.com]

Oh, the Church. A lot of them just call everyone who opposes them a monster.

Not really-just practical.

[dreamsofnoah]

Mm~, they do, don't they? And then they're surprised no one believes them the one time they're right.

[lyra-of-dust.livejournal.com]

Even when they're right about things, they still get it backwards. Like with Dust. Or Lord Asriel.

[dreamsofnoah]

That's true, they don't understand anywhere near as much as they think they do.

[lyra-of-dust.livejournal.com]

Part of that's because they're so afraid of anything that contradicts what they think they know. Which explains why they were all so terrified of Lord Asriel. That, and he absolutely hated them.

[dreamsofnoah]

He must have been so~ scary.

They know nothing.

[lyra-of-dust.livejournal.com]

And that was before he did what he set out to do.

Well... About that, we both agree. And they don't want anyone else to know anything either.

[dreamsofnoah]

What did he do?

Mm~. Which makes everything so much easier.

[lyra-of-dust.livejournal.com]

He fought a war against The Authority God and won.

Not really.

[dreamsofnoah]

Did he.

It does for us.

[lyra-of-dust.livejournal.com]

Yes, he did. Is there something wrong with that?

Easier to fight them, maybe. Afterwards... it makes things trickier.

[dreamsofnoah]

I just think it's funny. It's what the Exorcists seem to think we're trying to do too.

Things won't be trickier if there is no afterwards.

[lyra-of-dust.livejournal.com]

Well, it en't a bad goal. Why'd they think that, anyway?

What would be the point then?

[dreamsofnoah]

Because, like I said, they never quite understand.

Does there need to be one?

[lyra-of-dust.livejournal.com]

Typical.

Well, no, but if you knock something down... why not put something better in its place?

[dreamsofnoah]

Because it'll just corrupt itself again, the same way it did before.

[lyra-of-dust.livejournal.com]

Not if people remember.

Do you think the world's inherently evil? Or that it was ever pure, before?

[dreamsofnoah]

Especially not if there's no one left to remember.

It was, once. I can remember.

It's not the world~ that's inherently evil. It's humans.

[lyra-of-dust.livejournal.com]

Don't tell me that you think Adam and Eve were real.I don't want any more maniacs trying to kill me.

Was it? Or maybe you just didn't notice the flaws.

People can't be inherently good or evil. Just actions and intentions.

[dreamsofnoah]

Were they? It doesn't matter if they were, story or fact.

Or maybe there weren't any.

It's all the same, in the end.

[lyra-of-dust.livejournal.com]

I dunno either, actually. They're sort of a metaphor. Some people like to go on and on about original sin, though.

Maybe. When do you remember it being flawless?

[dreamsofnoah]

That has nothing to do with them.

After the flood. When almost everyone was gone. Just one family left.

[lyra-of-dust.livejournal.com]

Obviously. The Church thought so though.

... But... families have children and get bigger. And then eventually, the whole world is full of people again, and they're all still part of that family, en't they?

[dreamsofnoah]

It wasn't like that at all. They changed. You wouldn't understand without seeing it.

Doesn't matter. We're fixing it.

[lyra-of-dust.livejournal.com]

Try me.

And eventually end up at the same spot you started?